My guess is that mr. curle was thinking about the mechanical royalties?PsyTox wrote:?fader wrote:it's the label that carries those costs, an artist will always receive his royalties according to the contract.
The royalties (except the advance) are usually calculated on the profit. So if you lose money from the vinyl sales, your royalty is also zero, no?
Also, the royalties on digital are usually 50% where it's more common for vinyl to have a 15% or similar royalty.
So, I think the artist is better off digitally, because the costs are considerably lower, the point where the profit (and the royalties) start is lower.
Think that goes for most labels and also for Curle I think.
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An artist gets mechanical (Gema, NCB, Sagem, or what ever it is called in your local country) royalties from the number of records pressed.fader wrote:an artist gets royalties per sold copy (minus the promo's, and minus the advance). and percentages aren't always comparable, as an artist i'd rather get 18% of 5 euro in stead of 50% of 50 cent (just an example)
Then there are some different models on how to do the royalties regarding the sales. Some labels do the xx% of the PPD price, others do a 50/50 split on the final profit.
Yeah, but most labels don't get 5, but something like 3. You of course get 5 or something because you are also the distribution companyfader wrote:an artist gets royalties per sold copy (minus the promo's, and minus the advance). and percentages aren't always comparable, as an artist i'd rather get 18% of 5 euro in stead of 50% of 50 cent (just an example)
Either way, in most cases the artist just gets the advance when it's a vinyl release... while with digital, they get 50% (and not of 50 cent, but of 1 euro and something more)... minus nothing.
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Very true.PsyTox wrote:Yeah, but most labels don't get 5, but something like 3. You of course get 5 or something because you are also the distribution company
I must admit that I don't know many labels who still do advance fee's.PsyTox wrote: Either way, in most cases the artist just gets the advance when it's a vinyl release...
PsyTox wrote:while with digital, they get 50% (and not of 50 cent, but of 1 euro and something more)... minus nothing.
That's not true. Digital store / label = 40%/60% (or something like that) and then label / artist = 50%/50% of the 60% (normally)
THAT is so truePsyTox wrote: Anyway, one thing I know: you don't get rich from starting your own label, often enough just poorer
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LOL...someone approached us about starting a label for charity...we told him that we already run twoPsyTox wrote:Anyway, one thing I know: you don't get rich from starting your own label, often enough just poorer
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HhahahaDantron wrote:LOL...someone approached us about starting a label for charity...we told him that we already run twoPsyTox wrote:Anyway, one thing I know: you don't get rich from starting your own label, often enough just poorer