white noise where did it come from

[dubgil]

Anyone tell me where this white noise element to electronic music originated from?

To me it's a bit recent, like last 5 or so years, you hear this white noise everywhere...

earlier someone posted a topic about Umek and shared this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8hIWihMZ2c

- you get the idea now.

this white noise thing is sooo friggin annoying (in my opinion) but I'm curious what the attraction is since it's used so heavily nowadays, there's nothing musical about it, no rhythmic or melodic quality to it. I acknowledge it is more effect than anything else, but I have listened to some tracks where the white noise Rise, sweep thing was carried over nearly 32 bars.... yuck!

[tone-def]

i imagine white noise has been around since the beginning of synthesizers. it's a useful tool and you couldn't be able to make a lot of electronic drum sounds without it.

[Spurn]

yeah so i imagine somewhere along the way someone used it as an effect like you said and it caught on and now its incredibly overused. i think it builds tension or pushes you along or something, i dunno. i used to kind of dig it back when i first got into minimal/techno/house but now im really over it as i think most of us are.

i like how even though i've never made a conscious effort towards it none of the music i've produced so far contains any of those kind of white noise sweeps.

maybe it's like they're trying to fill in a gap somewhere where a better production technique or musical element would be?

[hydrogen]

the first techno track with whitenoise used in this way that I know is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nTFkezFJlU
drops @ 1:44.

Maybe before this? probably... but this is my favorite.

[NewSc2]

The white noise wave/tension build up sound has been around for ages. It's in Pink Floyd (Wish You Were Here), Jean Michel Jarre (the first Oxygene album), and I'm sure more. If you wanna go on a tangent, classical works use the cymbal build/crash thing too.

EDIT: I guess it wasn't used in the same exact technical way back then (as the main motif over an extended section, sidechained, etc.), but the general concept was there.

[dubgil]

i imagine white noise has been around since the beginning of synthesizers. it's a useful tool and you couldn't be able to make a lot of electronic drum sounds without it.

this i know, I was referring more specifically to that SHHHHHHHZZZZZZZZZZZ sound, like in the YT clip I linked

[dubgil]

the first techno track with whitenoise used in this way that I know is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nTFkezFJlU
drops @ 1:44.

Maybe before this? probably... but this is my favorite.

thanks for reminding me of that, but we can agree that is much better than the stuff we hear nowadays, I'm simply curious how it caught on - laziness - one thing I believe; a simple filler effect to build tension, yes, but ultimately a representation (to me) that the producer lacked ideas.

[miro pajic]

the first techno track with whitenoise used in this way that I know is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nTFkezFJlU
drops @ 1:44.

Maybe before this? probably... but this is my favorite.

thanks for reminding me of that, but we can agree that is much better than the stuff we hear nowadays, I'm simply curious how it caught on - laziness - one thing I believe; a simple filler effect to build tension, yes, but ultimately a representation (to me) that the producer lacked ideas.

what a bull!
just because something is overdone (which happeness with EVERYTHING that once gets super popular...2 years ago it was click clack, 10 years ago it was the 909 ride cymbal, since a while it's vocal samples and some white noise here and there..)

the white noise effect was actually a cool effect to cause tension and a break out..that simple, or not?

there's still SOME productions where i think "hmm..it fits, sounds good" and it was the same for 808 clave or whatever 2 years ago. if it's done GOOD, then why not?

every overkill makes things unattractive after a while.