how do you do it?
i suck at it... i rarely achieve the melody im looking for
too often the more intricate i get ....i start off sounding too melodic...
like something you would hear in a progressive house track...u know the type...
as an example
to this day its never too far away from my record box
villalobos-panpot spliff
whats the trick? whats the deal?
point the way
whats your trick?
is it the chords?....certain ones to avoid?....process?
what the fck?
future thanks
sorry for cussing
ray
OK THE MELODIES
hehe
my friend uses the step sequencer and i just stab one note first and play smtn untill it sounds nice,afterwards i'm cracking my head with complex chord sequences.
it can be a pain in the ass sometimes,but knowing how to play the piano helps a lot in making any melody.
also...i noticed that dance music is all about one certain part of chords which sound most dynamic like in some dubby tracks from furstenberg or rhythm & sound.
you can't write a novel untill you don't know the alphabet!
my friend uses the step sequencer and i just stab one note first and play smtn untill it sounds nice,afterwards i'm cracking my head with complex chord sequences.
it can be a pain in the ass sometimes,but knowing how to play the piano helps a lot in making any melody.
also...i noticed that dance music is all about one certain part of chords which sound most dynamic like in some dubby tracks from furstenberg or rhythm & sound.
you can't write a novel untill you don't know the alphabet!
Drop the idea of becoming someone else, because you are already a masterpiece.
mlexicon wrote:anyone got any good online tutorials of jazz keys?
and exactly what is the cirlcle of the fifths? or some sh!t like that
http://www.apassion4jazz.net/keys.html
Drop the idea of becoming someone else, because you are already a masterpiece.
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How to use this circle
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If the key is "C" (major) the letter left* of the
"C" will indicate the subdominant (F) and the one
on the right* the dominant (G).
So you have to use the chords C, F and G
If there are minor chords in the song, they will
be Am, Dm and Em (Usually it would be Em7, but
that means going deeper)
(*right means here clockwise, left means the other
way around)
If the key is Bbm, all* possible chords were: Bbm,
Ebm, Fm, Db, Gb, Ab.
(*if the song really sticks to the standard
scheme, some songs have additional chords which
don't fit to this rule)
The parallel minor scale to C is Am, the parallel
major scale to Fm is Ab.
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If the key is "C" (major) the letter left* of the
"C" will indicate the subdominant (F) and the one
on the right* the dominant (G).
So you have to use the chords C, F and G
If there are minor chords in the song, they will
be Am, Dm and Em (Usually it would be Em7, but
that means going deeper)
(*right means here clockwise, left means the other
way around)
If the key is Bbm, all* possible chords were: Bbm,
Ebm, Fm, Db, Gb, Ab.
(*if the song really sticks to the standard
scheme, some songs have additional chords which
don't fit to this rule)
The parallel minor scale to C is Am, the parallel
major scale to Fm is Ab.
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Am
Dm Em
C
F G
Gm Bm
Bb D
Cm Eb A F#m [this is a circle]
Ab E
Fm C#m
Db Gb B
F#
Bbm G#m
Ebm
D#m
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There really is no 'trick' per se
It's something which is gradually learned from experience. Some people have more trained ears than others...but the potential is available to everyone.
I learned it fairly early through piano lessons and vocal music and moved on to just teaching my self. I teach myself on everything now if I want to learn something new pretty much.
It's something which is gradually learned from experience. Some people have more trained ears than others...but the potential is available to everyone.
I learned it fairly early through piano lessons and vocal music and moved on to just teaching my self. I teach myself on everything now if I want to learn something new pretty much.
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The way I come up with melodies and rhythms is trial and error. I sit at my nord keyboard and lay down a melody in a 2 or 4 bar measure. If i think its catchy ill extend to 8 or maybe 16 measures adding a note here or there throughout the song.
Sometimes Ill even pull a Beethoven and record melodies "deaf", with the volume on mute, then ill turn the volume up and see what i made. The "burrito rolling contest" on textone 23 was made using this concept.
Sometimes Ill even pull a Beethoven and record melodies "deaf", with the volume on mute, then ill turn the volume up and see what i made. The "burrito rolling contest" on textone 23 was made using this concept.
Yeah i know i have this problem too. I find that it really does depend on the sound that ur using for example if ur using the subtractor in reason and using chords its gunna sound trance like,.get me?suck at it... i rarely achieve the melody im looking for
too often the more intricate i get ....i start off sounding too melodic...
like something you would hear in a progressive house track...u know the type...