Spoke about this many times on here, the computer sequencer/linear approach nearly made me give up music. Ivd done that approach for years. Subtractive sequencing from say 16 bars of the 'centrepiece' of a track. In 4/4 time, working in block segments and listening to it a thousand times as you get through the bars. Man, I cant do that any longer. It works but I need something else. Its the main reason im rebuilding my set up from the ground up.
Too much to go into today as Im off out but I like this subject and have tons to say about it. An element of live improv is where I see my creativity shining, I have gotta tailor how I work yet and set my studio up to work for me with that in mind. Its totally individual to me and unfortunately, its took me years to realise. For someone starting out, Id always advise the subtractive sequencing approach, its foolproof and works in a dj friendly kinda way.
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in my opinion you gotta learn to love the mistakes and correct them as you go.
I try to do everything as live as possible. Sometimes I suck at it, and it's kinda high pressure and hard work.
It's pretty good practice to play with others sometimes. I used to have some fun jam sessions with friends on simple machines. I find it enjoyable to do something that isn't my normal music and cut loose and go with the flow. Not so much pressure to do everything and you usually do things differently.
Can get pretty high tension sometimes, depending on certain things, but totally awesome practice for live.
I try to do everything as live as possible. Sometimes I suck at it, and it's kinda high pressure and hard work.
It's pretty good practice to play with others sometimes. I used to have some fun jam sessions with friends on simple machines. I find it enjoyable to do something that isn't my normal music and cut loose and go with the flow. Not so much pressure to do everything and you usually do things differently.
Can get pretty high tension sometimes, depending on certain things, but totally awesome practice for live.
thats just practice bro.::BLM:: wrote:The problem I have when I record in live is that I get all the timings wrong. I get into the recording so much all the timings are off so I have to go back and edit it.
playing live in front of people helps, if ive got a gig, i have to practice my arse off to make sure i dont fck up, its easy to let the timings slip in the studio when theres no pressure.
working with a modular really helps to break out of that arrangement mentality, basically because youve got no choice.
my music is now fractal instead of linear, everything starts from a really simple point and grows fractally out of it. its kind of the opposite of subtractive sequencing.
Wow, that's really what I'm aiming at...but except random lfo's maybe I don't see how I could do this with my daw...Steevio, you really putted words on what I feel how my music should be...every element evolves in its own way and tells it's story, but inside one big arrangement ! I really enjoy reading your posts-among others of course-because you really know what you're talking about, and you share it...and that's what music is about I think...so thank you dude !steevio wrote: my music is now fractal instead of linear, everything starts from a really simple point and grows fractally out of it. its kind of the opposite of subtractive sequencing.
Yeah most of the stuff I do is sequenced in live and then I cut up the long audio file after. What I normally do is record for like 20 mins and then go back and cut it all up.
I have never done a live show before. A few people have asked me recently so I have been thinking about it, but it needs to be more then me just playing my tracks from a laptop otherwise im not going to enjoy it. When you lot who do livesets how do you work it? Do you save all your patches and then flick between them on the synth as the live set progresses? So if I knew I was going to do say 8 tracks I would set it up before with 8 patches on say the Prophet, a few kicks on the Mbase and and so on?
I have never done a live show before. A few people have asked me recently so I have been thinking about it, but it needs to be more then me just playing my tracks from a laptop otherwise im not going to enjoy it. When you lot who do livesets how do you work it? Do you save all your patches and then flick between them on the synth as the live set progresses? So if I knew I was going to do say 8 tracks I would set it up before with 8 patches on say the Prophet, a few kicks on the Mbase and and so on?
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IF you use Ableton you can just record what you do in clip mode in the arrangement view.XIII NRV wrote:Wow, that's really what I'm aiming at...but except random lfo's maybe I don't see how I could do this with my daw...Steevio, you really putted words on what I feel how my music should be...every element evolves in its own way and tells it's story, but inside one big arrangement ! I really enjoy reading your posts-among others of course-because you really know what you're talking about, and you share it...and that's what music is about I think...so thank you dude !steevio wrote: my music is now fractal instead of linear, everything starts from a really simple point and grows fractally out of it. its kind of the opposite of subtractive sequencing.